I am a shia muslem. my brother Amaar One must really read the holy Quran, know the holy prophet, his sunna, his ahlebait, the 12 Imams, and much more about their toiling life to know what was their message, and why they were treated so badly, mistreated, poisoned, killed, asscinated, by the islamic governments during their life time. Although We shall talk, releaern about ourselves, critisize ourpast mistakes understand, should adhear to our islamic values, the Islam of Mohammad(PBUH) and his true follower Ali(AS) and come together one more time again.
You wrote and discribed the truth about the meeting of two of the devine Figures/persons whom Allah(SWT) has bestowed upon both of them so much grace and knowledge. So, We may open our eyes to the wisdom they described in such elequant, and comprehensive story, of three types of people, and about the essence of our Humanity (Ensan).
As you know very well a similar story in a different situation and context happened Between Al Khizir(AS) and Prophet Moses (AS) thousand plus years before that meeting as described in the Holy Quran Karim in Surah Al Kahf(60-82).
Again as you know Holy Quran is the source of mysteries.
why must shia or sunny ? i think we are muslim. and we just different mazhab i think that. what Rasulullah examplle for us to call us with sunni or shia. i dont think so. i think just muslim. muslim is ONE UMMAH.
in alquran i found mukminin, muslimin, fasiqin, zolimin, munafiqin and kafirin.
I have read quite a few of your posts by now and MashAllah I have enjoyed myself reading each of them. I too like to be called a Muslim what we all really are rather than a shia or a sunni. However my dad’s side is all shia and my mom’s side is pretty much all sunni. I have studied a bit of both schools of thought. There is a tradition that Bibi Fatima was hurt by the 2 caliphs Hazrat Umer in particular and this tradition is found in sunni books as well. Bibi Fatima also said she didn’t want to see them at her funeral. Furthermore her house was burnt down and the baby she was carrying also died. If this is true, how can one expected to still respect the 3 caliphs?
First I would like to thank you for reading my posts and I am truly delighted to know that you have enjoyed them. And my apology for the delay because it slipped my mind and I thought I have replied to you.
The concerns you have raised in your comment is extremely important and I am certain it is shared by many wonderful young Shi’a Muslims and those who are sincerely trying to find a proper approach to the elements of disputes which has been hampering the progress of Islamic unity among Sunni and Shi’a Muslims.
As you have indicated in your comment above that “my dad’s side is all Shi’a and my mom’s side is pretty much all Sunni”, therefore this put you in a very unique and challenging position. You have a golden opportunity to find a reconciliatory approach in respect to this ugly dispute.
Now in respect to this historical account, regarding the nature of treatment which is allegedly committed by the first two Muslim Caliphs, Umer (rAa) and Abu Bakr (rAa) against the honourable Lady Fatima (as), please know that such allegations have been around for 1400 hundred years and it has played a major role in the breakup of Muslim unity. I am not in favour of dwelling into such issues because it serves no purpose at all and it would absolutely hinder any efforts towards Muslim Unity. However, I allude to some facts in respect to this particular event, and that is this alleged story of abuse recently has been challenged by some prominent Shi’a Muslim scholars, such as Ayatollah Muhammad Hussain Fadtlallah of Lebanon.
Furthermore, For the sake of argument, such allegations do not conform to any logic or social and cultural norms of the Arabs or any race; in other words it is very hard to believe that Imam Ali would not perform his duty as a husband to provide a protection to his wife from the alleged attackers. If you take any ordinary Arab man or any Man, would not let any attackers to get away with attacking his house or wife. What if this Man was Imam Ali who is very well known for his bravery and honor. And worst than that we find Imam Ali has enjoyed a reasonable and good relationship with those two Caliphs or “the abusers of his wife; as alleged” Hence this story does not meet any standard of social or cultural norms.
Furthermore, it is not about whether this story is true or not rather it is about will it serve the general interests of Muslims and the ultimate goals of Islam or not. This dispute is very much related to Imam Ali (as) alone since Bibi Fatima is his wife. It would be more appropriate to see how Imam Ali (as) has dealt with those two respectful Caliphs in light of this alleged account.
I am not in favour of rejecting out right such allegations not because they might be true or not rather it is of no avail to the other side who firmly believe in them. I have learned in my humble experience that Shi’a Muslims are very emotional about this issue and that the majority firmly believe in it. Therefore it would be unfruitful task to disprove its authenticity. It is like telling our Christian brothers that Jesus is not the son of God. Therefore we must focus on what is really relevant to our Muslim needs and aspirations.
Hence, I truly believe that it is important to respect those early Muslim leaders despite whatever alleged abuses on their part for two simple reasons. The first reason is that the major figure of this dispute is Imam Ali (as) and he consistently showed respect and extended his hands of cooperation for the service of Islam and Muslim interests. Those who claim to be the followers of Ali or “shi’at Ali” ought to follow Imam Ali’s example in respect to his dealings and relationship to these Muslim Caliphs. If Shi’a Muslims see themselves not necessarily required to love those leaders in questions but at least they are expected to honour the path of Imam Ali in respect to his relationship to these Muslim leaders and the manner he (as) dealt with them. In addition, if Shi’a Muslims , followers of Ali, may rationalise the peaceful approach of Imam Ali(as) in regard to the alleged incident, and say that because he wanted to prevent bloodshed and preserve Muslim unity or to abide by the prophet (as) instructions regarding leadership issue and etc… I say to that, that all of these sentiments are good assumptions and it is important to remember that these sentiments and concerns are all still very much present and that the same challenges and concerns which had faced the Muslims and Imam Ali, which merited his peaceful approach, calls upon all of us to adopt the same path of Imam Ali towards the companions in question. Today we face the same reasons which led Imam Ali (as) to adopt and take an appropriate course of action to deal with these companions.
The second reason is that these Muslim figures have become part of the Sunni faith and they represent the main principles of their religious doctrine. Hence respecting them has become detrimental to the prospects of Muslim unity. In other words to respect those leaders is respecting Muslim unity and the integrity of Islam. And respecting them is no longer about their persons rather is about the integrity of Muslim unity and progress, as Imam Ali who has done just that.
Muslims must be prepared to make some sacrifices for the sake of Muslim unity and the general Muslim interests. It cost nothing to show respect but it cost a lot not to.
Shi’a Muslims are not required to go around and shout to the world their respect to these Caliphs rather they must abstain from disrespecting them at least as show of respect to Imam Ali who has never disrespected them while he expressed his bitter disagreement over the issue of leadership but maintained his line of respect to them. And Allah knows best.
Thanks you for such a nice website. I really like another Jaafariyah website as well which contains alot of knowledge as well about our Fiqh. What i like the most is that they use Sunni sources to prove shia fiqh. Following is the website:
Please kindly give a comprehensive brakedown of ghusl janab and nifas. Actually I had been taught in three forms which contradicts one another, that’s why i would want you to share more knowlegde on that particular trend.
Please kindly give a comprehensive brakedown of ghusl janab and nifas. Actually I had been taught in three difference forms which contradicts one another but I want a unique one, that’s why i would want you to share more knowlegde over that particular trend.
You have interesting Posts. But before i go ahead and read them i just wanna confirm if your a Shia or what ? I saw in one of your replies to somebody up there, you wrote “Imam Ali (as)” you meant Alaihis-Salaam ? Hows that possible to say Alaihis-Salaam to a Sahabi of Rasoolullaah Sallallaahualaihi Wasallam ? We and all of the early Ulama and Aimma (Non Shia) has used RaziALLAHu Anhu. This made me think if your a Shia but want to make all join together. And the replies from you also made me think that you actually don’t like Hazrat Abu Bakr RaziALLAHu Anhu and Hazrat Umar RaziALLAHu Anhu, but just being okay with them and not commenting anything bad. Please reply so that i would feel happy to read your posts. Actually i want to but i can’t make myself go ahead and read which gives me such thoughts.
Sorry brother if if you got hurt or if said something which i shouldn’t have said. I just wanna be open and tell you what i think so that you can reply me better.
Lastly also please mention when did out sweet sister Baraaha departed from this world and entered Jannah (InshaALLAH) ?
Thank you for visiting my blog and happy you find some interests in my posts. I appreciate your need to know whether I am a Shi’a Muslim or not. I am not a Shi’a rather I am a Muslim. I respect both sects and have no desire to be be either one, for neither of them provide me a spiritual satisfaction. Please know that the “truth” has no particular religious flavor. It is recognized by all people. If there is anything in my post appeal to you then it should not matter if I am a Shi’a Muslim or a Sunni Muslim.
As regard to mentioning the letters “as” after mentioning the name of “Ali bin Abi Talib”; it has no particular significant it is only conveying a greeting to him, just you have conveyed your greeting to me in your comment above. however, there are many Sunni Muslim scholars refer to “Ali” as “Imam Al (as) especially in Egypt And in Sahih Bukhari in chapter “the merits of Ahlul bait-the house hold of the prophet” you will find the term “as” in Arabic is mentioned.
I truly appreciate your sincerity and I value you as friend.